My experience with Jelly & recommendation on lightweight IMDB
By Angsuman Chakraborty, Gaea News NetworkSaturday, January 24, 2004
I just read Hani’s experiences with axiondb - The BileBlog. It echoes my sentiments with common’s projects, specially the maven enabled ones, minus his colorful language of course.
I have been trying to get Jelly working for me. I realized that the jar provided is not complete and it needs Maven. I then proceeded to download Maven and incidentally also got it working with Ant.
I thought my troubles were over! Alas, I discovered a quite sometime later that one of the jars it needs to compile is not present, thereby preventing any build from happening! I tried it with both Maven and Ant, with same results.
The dependency list seems to be broken for over a month. I am surprised that people haven’t fixed it yet. Is anyone working anymore on Jelly?
Much as I like to use Jelly (I still haven’t been able to get it working) the stupid idea to download huge number of jars which I may or may not need is something that puts me off. I can accept if they packaged it in a big fat zip file but not this way. Maven concept is good theoritically, practically its a pain.
Yeah, I know its free but so is Tomcat. And look how simple it is to install Tomcat.
At the end I have to admit, it was effort to not use colorful language against this product.
My advice to Hani: Use Hypersonic SQL. Its a pleasure to use. I am using for small projects and prototypes for around 3 years now without much of an issue. I am still amazed at how something as beautiful can be built with so little code.
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January 25, 2004: 5:35 pm
I don’t think you’re problems are Maven’s fault. It’s idea of a local jar repository is as good practically as its theoretically. I agree you won’t realize it the first time you use it, but in a longer run. The real problem is (like Cedric and Hani have pointed out): open source projects are more often than not unpolished. Without digging into the source (at least a bit) some won’t get you nowhere. Jelly may be a special candidate. It seemed like a good idea a few months/years back. But in the end it’s more of a tech demo (a clever one, no doubt) still looking for a problem… |
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January 25, 2004: 10:42 am
Trouble is Hani’s “experience” with Axion is non-existent, and his comments regarding it are false. |
Fabian Crabus